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  1. Catamarca Livin

    Catamarca Livin Registered User

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    Agreed! The value of picks falls off heavily usually around 40th overall depending on the draft. We should not trade these pick as a rebuilding team. I think the later picks are over valued on these boards but high seconds are very valuable. We traded one to Florida for Gudbranson have the Canucks traded another high 2nd. I know we traded mid 2nd for Vey and Sven and included a second for Sutter I believe not sure where that pick was. Was it Anaheim's for Bieksa. Anyway one of the biggest advantages for bad teams is not just the lottery but the high second round pick and should not be traded lightly.

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  2. ProstheticConscience

    ProstheticConscience Happy Chappy

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    Continuing on from the last thread, we have propagandaception.

    Having now exhausted any possible avenue for arguing Benning and Linden deserve to be here because of competence, the Benning Bros are now resorting to claiming cheering for the team under any circumstances is preferable to wanting them to lose just to get rid of them.

    "I don't care if the Canucks ever get really good, I'm happy with 82 games of entertainment and a short playoffs because I have a life and don't get that involved. And that means I'm a better fan than you, because you're cheering for the team to lose. That's against my principles. I don't think long term or care if the team ever gets good again, because I have a desire to cheer whatever's happening at this moment right now. So I deserve a good team. You don't because I don't understand long term goals. So I'm going to register this account on hf to whine about your attitude, when if I really were just some average schmo I'd be perfectly happy lapping up pablum on reddit or CDC and would never have bothered."

    Sounds legit.

    Continue.

    Fire Benning, Linden, Weisbrod, and whoever is running their media relations department.
     
  3. dim jim

    dim jim Passing the Torch

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    48,000 posts later and Jim Benning is still horrible at his job.
     
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    SillyRabbit Trix Are For Kids

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    Does it ever make you mad to think about the fact that Jim Benning is getting paid a six figure salary to systematically dismantle your hometown organization?

    He’s not just botching picks, trades and contracts, he’s also removing competent staff and filling the organization with unqualified and incompetent “yes men.”

    I’ll never understand how a multi-millionaire owner would allow two men with high school diplomas to run their organization.
     
  5. clunk

    clunk Fire Jim Benning

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    Please just make it stop. I can't wait until we have a front office we can be confident in again. I want to be able to cheer for a winning team again, and that's not happening under Club 16 and his minions.
     
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    Peen Dim Jim

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    seven figure salary
     
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  7. clunk

    clunk Fire Jim Benning

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    They played in the NHL. That's all that seems to matters to some owners when picking their front office.
     
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    SillyRabbit Trix Are For Kids

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    “Hey you played a sport full time for most of your adult life, didn’t go to college and never worked in a business environment in your life.”

    “I think that you should be in charge of hiring, firing, legal contracts, long term planning, financial allocation, public relations, organizational relations, player development and scouting.”

    Makes sense.
     
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    "But Jim struggles to form a coherent sentence."

    "Oh well, let's give him an open chequebook anyways."
     
  10. Nuckles

    Nuckles Bleed Assets E'ryday

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    Yeah but Gillis Granlund Pouliot Boeser
     
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    Boeser is the first legit argument they have had in 4 years that Benning has done *something* right.

    It’s actually kinda sad that the best they’ve had up to this point has been a soft 32 pt winger and a defensively suspect near-waiver wire candidate.

    I’m almost glad they’ve finally got Boeser to use.
     
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    I can think of a few more things but even if I put them all together it's still not even close to a fraction of the stupid **** Benning did...
     
  13. The Stig

    The Stig R.I.P. Fugu <3

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    Worked for Tampa. Just sayin. Not defending Benning.
     
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    GUYS STOP CALLING _____ A BUST. I KNOW NOBODY HAS CALLED _____ A BUST BUT IN MY IMAGINATION THEY THINK HES A BUST AND IF YOU TELL ME THATS NOT REAL ILL SUE YOU I SWEAR
     
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    MY DADS A COP AND ALSO THE MAYOR
     
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    Or you could be like the Cleveland Browns and hire a well educated lawyer and a well educated businessman / numbers guy / analytics guy with zero experience in the sport
     
  17. The Drop

    The Drop Rain Drop, Drop Top

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    The browns have been trash since they were awarded a new franchise and tried something different.

    Comparing football management to hockey is also ridiculous considering there are players who exclusively play defense and offense and teams can be built with defense only and win championships.
     
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    WTG Verstappen!

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    Ideally I'd want someone with some experience and a analytical outlook.

    Having someone who played hockey at a high level that doesn't mean the experience carries over to a managerial role. It's like getting a chef at a McDonalds, then asking them to overlook the entire branch in a managerial role in the entire city. That guy does not have the right experience to manage and hire the right people for that job.

    This is probably who goons were around so long. Players like goons, but from a actual team building stand point, trying to build the best roster, they were and are useless. That's why it's called "intangibles", because trying to justify having a goon on your team on paper is very dumb. The reason they stayed around so long is because players become management and liked goons. A real dark stain in the history of the game.


    This team needs a innovative new direction, you aren't going to get that with management who seemingly always copy someone else. Even if a analytical person fails to make a good team. The fact they they are innovating and pushing the envelope means a whole lot more then to just copy successful teams.

    Like the quote from Moneyball, "if we try to play like the Yankees in here, we will lose to them out there.". Innovation drives competition in every facet of our society, why should it fail in a sports sense?
     
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    I already did a post about this. Trevor is Aqua's '94 crush turned 'yes' man and Benning is that old school 'yes' man (you know he's wise, old school, "blue collar" lol) so a yes from him is extra cool. They all play their little part and the billionaire's are rich either way from their dad's company. You know it wasn't their company it was their dad's that they took over - so why would they have to be smart. Look at how they acquired the Canucks anyways.
     
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    The only people who can be GM are Jim Benning or a math professor from Neptune.
     
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    ProstheticConscience Happy Chappy

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    Or maybe we buck with tradition and go with someone competent for once...
     
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    Why would a competent hockey guy work for Aquilini?
     
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    because it's everyone's dream to be Aquaman's side kick: waterboy.
    :sarcasm:
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    gross understatement
     
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    Funny stuff, Brackett pushed hard to draft him. Really, really hard.
     
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