Discussion in 'Edmonton Oilers' started by Senor Catface, Sep 6, 2016.
Really hard to say at this point. Of U-25 guys that have not played 50 NHL games I would rank our prospects along these lines - unfortunately assuming that Ryan Mantha’s career is likely over or much-reduced:
13. Russell (Danish)
My list weighs upside a bit higher than likelihood of making the nhl. If I went with NHL likelihood a guy like Patrick Russell would be higher as I think he might grab a 4th line spot right away.
As of draft day we’ll have a new #1 most likely.
Also keep in mind I *really* like Maksimov. I seriously considered him before Skinner or Benson.
He's easily top 10 for me.
I had him in there but I was juggling things around and moving guys up and down and must have deleted him. He’s at 8.
I like your list. Trust your gut, Maksimov should be ahead of Benson. Also, Samorukov should be ahead of Marody and maybe Berglund and Laggeson as far as upside. He is a stud that is bi, heavy and can skate well.
Also, at this point Wells drops below Starrett and Marino.
I wouldn't have Wells that low.
Really tough for goalies on bad teams to look good at a glance.
He still has all the tools you want in an NHL goalie.
I guess if that's important to you...
I like prospects that like to party.
Would you have Hebig at 20 or lower? Or did you miss him?
I missed him. I need an adult before writing these things apparently.
I’d have Hebig at 13 bumping Russell down.
I'm just gonna pile on since apparently it's pick on CO day haha. Did you miss Phil Kemp, or is that an intentional omission?
I omitted him as part of a black ops operation I’m running to keep him off of other teams radars.
So far the only guy who seems to be aware of how good he is is @Voodoo Glow Skulls - sneaky beggar always tries to grab him in deals.
(No I forgot him too. He’s around 14/15)
And before anyone says it I left off Desharnais because he sucks. Ditto Larkin.
Hey, I do not.
(give him up dammit)
Kemp is actually legit? Never hear much of him, aside from when he almost made the WJHC team. Is there NHL potential there?
Hard to say. I lean toward yes but he’s a deep sleeper. He had a pretty solid year at Yale even though they aren’t very good. We’re talking 3 years from NHL at least but that said I think he’s got a lot of potential. Definitely a steal in the 7th.
Why Safin so low? He’s top-7 for me. Plays on a crappy team but is big, fast, with plenty of puck skills. Doesn’t seem to be another Martindale or C.Hamilton (never of fan of either). He’s closer to Pitlick.
Have to think Safin gets traded? Or does he play in the minors next season?
I didn't watch Safin's AHL games but 1 goal in 9 games at the end of the season doesn't sound promising.
He was playing on the fourth line with two other guys on ATOs, if I recall correctly.
He was aruguably one of the more dangerous players on the ice and looked very good. Production wasn't there but he looked good to great whenever he was on the ice
Can you guys give me some insight into Ethan Bear? Specifically what type of player he is and what role he projects as in the long-term. Thanks!
One of the harder ones to judge in the Oilers system, as he's generally always shattered expectations wherever he played. Even this year he was doing well in the AHL before getting a concussion ~15 games in. After that he slowed down, but I don't think anyone expected him to look good and hold his own (in a very limited role) at the NHL level to finish the season.
When he was drafted, it was his solid defensive play that was talked about, and how he took care of his own zone first. But it's his offence that has become his main selling point over the last few seasons. He has a high end slap shot and wrister, to go with good vision, passing, and hockey IQ. Plus he seems to have a good bit of drive and a solid head on his shoulders.
On the down side though, he's just average in size and speed (though his core strength is good), nor does he have those silky smooth moves of your traditional OFD. He was clearly still adjusting to the speed of the NHL (RE: a step behind) when he was in the defensive zone to finish the year.
Style wise I'd compare him to someone like Faulk (not saying he becomes an All Star, that's just whose play style he emulates). Not your traditional/smooth OFD, QB'ing the play or acting as a 4th forward; but his shot, vision, and IQ still make him a big threat.
Considering the Oil will likely have all of Larsson, Klefbom, Sekera, and Nurse locked up long term after this offseason, he's likely to just stay on the 3rd pairing, seeing big usage on the PP, if /when he makes the NHL. Though he has the upside to be more.
He's the one guy I'm concerned to lose to Seattle, as I can seem them keying in on him due to him playing his junior hockey there.
Unsurprisingly, Phil Kemp is part of the american U20 evaluation camp for the WJC this summer. Probably has a decent shot at making the team this coming season.
I live 1.5 hrs from Halifax and they are hosting the Mem Cup. I’m willing to bet he gets traded to Halifax next year. Halifax has 4 players rated in the top 30 (Zadina, Giroux, macIssac, Gravel). I think all players will be back with Halifax. I actually think Zadina will slip outta top 3