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Discussion in 'New Jersey Devils' started by Emperoreddy, Feb 5, 2017.

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  1. blood gin

    blood gin Registered User

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    One thing I can tell right away is that both local teams seem happy with their pick, but there is a segment of the Giants fan base that are a bit perturbed and unsettled at just how happy the Jets are.
     
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    BenedictGomez Corsi is GROSSLY overrated

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    I'd give it a C at best. It's a HORRENDOUS pick.

    He's the best back in the draft? So what. Statistically its' been shown it's the most "unsure" position in football in terms of draft rank, with often players just as good or better going in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, rounds. And this guy doesn't break tackles, he's all about pure open field play. The Giants throwing lots of screen passes is my prediction.

    Meanwhile the offensive line is garbage and the Quarterback is 37 years old and starting to show it.

    Dont worry though! The Giants are the #1 media market for NFL football, so the journalists will give Giants fans plenty of pre-season false hopes about returning to the playoffs.
    Not happening.
     
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    That was idiocy. Dorsey isn't going to fix that. His high water mark with them will be 6-10 or so
     
  4. Devils Dominion

    Devils Dominion NJD on the Rise

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    Do I sense a little nervousness from our resident Eagles fan? :naughty:

    Barkley is going to tear the league up.
     
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    Predictions on Cleveland's record in 2018?
     
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    MadDog172430 Palm Trees

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    But then you post a 2 month old article on Darnold being a bust from a blog of said regular Joes. :laugh: Never change.

    If Darnold busts, it will have nothing to do with him coming out of USC or whatever cupcake schedule they had last year. It will have everything to do with how the Jets groom him. Sam Darnold has nothing to do with Matt Barkley, Mark Sanchez or Carson Palmer (who had a pretty damn good career by the way).
     
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    Well you'll always have a minority of detractors. Which is fine. But when you look at the things Darnold did at 19 and 20 this is rare stuff. The throws he makes are unreal. And his negatives are curable. Keyboard warriors will always have their takes but I will always side with GM's and scouts
     
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    I've watched them all. Darnold is better than them all. Darnold is a self starter and will not need much grooming aside from being coached to go down at times and turtle (which Brady and Peyton Manning did. Live to to play the next down) that would eliminate 70% of his fumbles. And like Rosen stop trying to play hero ball.

    But the one thing he can do which Mayfield and Rosen and Allen can't is beat you by himself.
     
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    No matter what, for me, this just feels like a shift into a new era. There's an injection of youth and excitement into the franchise that hasn't been there for a little while. Whatever happens going forward, I'm excited about.
     
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    5-11. They'll look for a new coach at the end of the season.

    Mayfield won't be happy there. That has doom written all over it.
     
  11. Emperoreddy

    Emperoreddy Show me what you got

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    I think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment, though that is what drafts are all about.
     
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    Huh? I've watched every collegiate snap he's taken. That's the total opposite of a hot take.
     
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    It is. Feel happy and secure you got your guy. He is the best Qb the Jets have drafted since Namath.
     
  14. BenedictGomez

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    Exactly the opposite, I'm HAPPY the Giants took him given all their needs. Sets their organization back at least 1 year.

    The Giants should have either:

    1) Taken a QB

    2) Traded down and taken either Quenton Nelson or Mike McGlinchey + a 2nd Round pick

    Instead they got a flashy running back to compliment a terrible offensive line & an aging quarterback, which is like buying a Lamborghini without the engine.
     
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    Well the Eagles are the class of the league and that division and won't be giving up that post. You can find Barkleys every year. Sometimes multiple times a year. Sometimes in round 6 or undrafted. Doesn't mean he won't be a good player he just wasn't the correct pick there.

    The effect that Darnold has for the Jets the next 15 years will be enormous. And Barkley will be good but there is always a huge injury risk with backs, plus their peaks are short and they break down. Few make it effectively to 30. Some are pretty much done at 28. I think he'll give the Giants about 5 good years. But hey if Eli turns the clock back and they win a SB within the next 3 years with Barkley playing an instrumental role then I guess it was worth it

    I liked Dalvin Cook as a player more than Barkley but he tore is ACL year 1. So who knows what he'll be now.
     
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    Exactly.

    If they don't take Will Hernandez with the 2nd pick tonight you have to begin to wonder WTH the GM is doing. Their offensive line needs desperate help, or Manning wont make it beyond Game #10.
     
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    Manning is still good and he needs to be kept as upright as possible in these late years. Draft Will Hernandez.

    Manning does the best he can protecting himself. He can recognize certain stunts and blitzes and bluffs and change things up pre snap. Trouble is if you don't have the horses he's going to get slaughtered anyway and the Giants didn't have that last year. He can't squirm out of things at 37 that he could at 27. Nobody can.
     
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    New Jersey Drink it in, maaaaaan.

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    I'm just glad Green Bay got a corner with their first pick.
     
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    Did the Devils tweet good luck to Darnold yet? Fellow New Jersey teams

    The Jets wished us good luck prior to the playoffs .
     
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    Giants were smart.
    Go with the best player in the draft who is a sure bet all star and probable all time great RB.

    If they picked the wrong QB it sets them back another few years.
     
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    Emperoreddy Show me what you got

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    It really does mean nothing if they don’t fix the O-line.

    Giants do have a lot of weapons, but it means squat if they can’t keep Eli upright.
     
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    Zajacs Bowl Cut Nova Nation

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    Hernandez to NYG

    smart
     
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    Giants an A+ with both picks
     
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    Only pick the giants can make there.

    Gettleman is drafting the positions Reese should have two years ago. Question is whether it is too late to be doing this.

    It almost all depends on whether you think Eli has a little left for not.
     
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    There were other linemen such as the dude from Auburn but Hernández was the right choice.

    I heard some buffoon say that Nick Chubb is the best back in the draft
    LOL
     
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