Pre-Game Talk: 2018 Draft Thread | Don't fret - if we screw up, we gift Chicago a good player, NBD

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Who do the Canucks choose: Dobson or Boqvist?

  1. Dobson

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  2. Boqvist

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  1. Ghost of David Bruce

    Ghost of David Bruce Grave Doubt Codfish

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    We’re way past stumble already... and well into faceplant. But so long as the prospect is firing on all cylinders in 3-4 years, we should be good.
     
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    What really killed us is our drafting from 09-15
     
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    Jyrki21 Todellakaan ole suomalaista Sponsor

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    I think Jeff Paterson said it well... when your team is out of contention for much of the season, the draft is the one thing you have to look forward to... the new hope, the excitement over a new name, etc. If the Canucks trade their first-rounder, they're basically just throwing that out the window. (Even apart from the implications of trying to accelerate development, whether the player is the right target, etc.) It's kind of a gut-punch to the fans.
     
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    Has there been anything material whatsoever indicating this pick is in play other than Friedman's speculative "stealth team" suggestion?
     
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    Canadian Canuck Fallin For Dahlin

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    TSN put it Top 5 I believe on the trade bait list as well as An insider saying that Canucks are by far the most active team on the trade front. Linden laughed at the TSN trade bait though so there’s that.
     
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    This.

    I’m in favour of trading down into the teens and taking Smith of K’Andre Miller and using the aquired pick on another Dman.
    Our depth on D is terrible,probably the worst in the league which is mind boggling considering how bad we’ve been the last 5 years and how many chances management has had to address this and haven’t done nearly enough.
     
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    Sam Constantino who covers thr CHL on Sporstnet...

    " Theres no way Dobson is available at 7 , id take him as early as 3 "
     
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    I would take Zadina at 7 as a consolation prize...
     
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    Since no one has taken a stab yet...

    He’s a lanky winger, highly skilled and creative. Deceptive hands and shot. He plays with a lot of energy, active feet in his own zone as well. Could be a Pettersson type of pick, high skill, high potential, good production in men’s leagues. He didn’t get a lot of playing time during the KHL regular season but emerged in the KHL playoffs. I think it is record setting playoff production for a U20. But also dominated the MHL in the short time he was there (combined 7pts in 3 games).

    Probably a bit high for me at 6, but I think he should definitely be in consideration for back end of the top 10 or just outside.
     
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    go with the top d prospect available at 7 whoever that is and another high end offer side dman with the 2nd? Beaudin or Lundkvist?
     
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    3-10 is going to be entertaining to watch. I think Montreal is going to going to take Hughes/Kotkaniemi/Dobson at 3 which will make things really interesting. Ottawa I think will take Zadina. Dont think Hughes or Dobson will be available at 7.
     
  12. LickTheEnvelope

    LickTheEnvelope 7th Overall is my jam

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    No way Dobson is top 3 and I doubt he's top 4. 5-7 range but he won't get beyond the Nucks that's for sure.
     
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    Montreal is the wild horse. They shouldn't be taking a winger. Unless if they trade down, the only 3 players i see them taking are Hughes, Dobson and Kotkaniemi. I could easily see him going 3rd. No one thought Dubois was going third either.
     
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    Our pick is Wahlstrom if Hughes and Dobson are gone imo.
     
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    I don't think we can rule out any player for the team who just fired a significant amount of their amateur scouting staff. Montreal could take Veleno 3rd and I wouldn't be shocked.
     
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    Yes, Canucks almost in a no-win, with Chicago drafting next. If we pick Dobson and they pick Hughes, if tradition holds then Hughes becomes the impact d-man. And likewise, if the Canucks draft Walstrom, the Hawks will draft Kotkaniemi, who's a possible impact center.

    The only real hope of avoiding an odious comparison for the next decade is if the Canucks draft a d-man and the Hawks take a forward. Even then, we could be blessed with a reprise of the Juolevi-Tkachuk comparisons.
     
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    Would be very disappointed in Hughes. Can't see a 5'9 D becoming a top pair guy, no matter how skilled. Add to that he has a muffin of a shot and abstained from the combine, and he's a do not draft for me.
     
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    Torey Krug is a top pairing dman.

    You can't teach that type of skill. Hes the best puck moving dman in the draft. Whether he succeeds or not will have nothing to do with his size. That part of the NHL is over.
     
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    I think Krug is the exception to the rule. Plus, his shot is a major asset. If you're an undersized offensive/QB specialist, a good shot is pretty much a must.
     
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    But you do realize that shot power is one of the easiest and most workable skills for a player? All you have to do is get stronger and work on your mechanics. Its not like hockey IQ or skating where there are so many dimensions involved. You dont have to have a super hard shot, as long as its decently hard and accurate, thats all you need.

    Also, most places have Hughes listed at 5'10 at 178 cm. Gottisbehere is 180 cm, Makar is 180cm To put that into perspective Crosby is also 180cm. Is 2 cm that big of a difference where it will hold him back from success?

    Barrie is also 5'10.

    Hes not a smurf. Hes just a bit undersized.
     
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    Hughes is also the best skater in the draft.Not saying we should take him for sure, but it would be foolish to put him on the no draft list because of his size. His value at 7 especially, is good.
     
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    It's my hunch that he didn't participate in the combine to avoid an official measurement. I can't see any other reason why he'd avoid it. Players don't generally drop due to lack of strength, which can be improved, but due to height. He could even be 5'8.

    1 or 2 inches is a lot of height to give up when you're already undersized.
     
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    Not 1 or 2 inches. I was talking 2 centimeters. Hes never been listed as 5'8 ever so i dont see that as a possibility. Most have him as 5'10.
     
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    Right, and I'm speculating he wouldn't have skipped the combine if his height was 5'10 as listed through various sources. I think skipping the combine was a very bad look for his attitude as well.
     
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    Krug is absolutely not a top pairing d-man. He's a 2nd pairing guy who gets lots of points on the PP along with soft ES assignments.
     
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