Player Discussion Connor McDavid Part VI: Hart, Ross and Lindsay Winner

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  1. Soli

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  3. Soli

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    I was gonna call him Connie McSmythe, but I didn't want to be too presumptuous. :sarcasm:

    But also... Crosby. I don't believe the Lindsay is a slam dunk.
     
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    MVP! MVP! MVP!

    Best chant I've heard in a while
     
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    I agree McDavid does not have the Lindsay attitude :sarcasm:
     
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    Art Ross. It is Art Ross. Art. Ross.
     
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    I really don't see why Crosby is even considered a big threat for the Hart this year.

    I mean sure he had a good year but even after taking McDavid out of the equation entirely to remove any bias... I would give the Hart nod to any of Burns/Karlsson/Marchand over Crosby this year. That's not even including the best goalies this year like Bobrovsky who also had a great season.

    As it is though... the 3 finalists should be Burns/Bobrovsky/McDavid... the 3 best players at each of the positions... D/G/F.
     
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    Actually, I trust the players to chose the MVP more than I do the media.
     
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    Connor McDavid surges to front of Hart Trophy race:
    https://www.nhl.com/news/oilers-cap...in-hart-trophy-race/c-288662726?tid=277729400

    Thank god the Eastern Media Bias won't deny him his rightful trophy. Now for NHL players to give him his rightful Lyndsey Trophy as well!
     
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    That just may be the greatest gif ever.
     
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    I have to assume the only other choice was Bobrovski, but even that's not a good call.

    He's so clearly the MVP it's stupid.

    Edit: Seriously, how to do you vote for Crosby over McDavid, you can Barely justify Crosby over Bobrovski. You shouldn't get credit for awards because of familiarity.
     
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    it seems like a lot of the eastern media says McDavid should run away with the Hart. There are some saying Bobrovsky but it doesn't seem like a lot.
     
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    Because for the longest time Crosby had the best points per game. That's it. Voters are morons and have demonstrated it time and time again. Our species is not very smart.
     
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    Connor was a massive part of one of the biggest point turnarounds in NHL history.
    If he doesn't win the Hart it will just show how far most eastern media guys have the heads up each others..........
     
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    I'm fairly confident he's winning all of the big 3.
     
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    Not that I disagree with McDavid's value to the team, but I doubt the Oiler turnaround is even top 10 in NHL history.
     
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    You don't think 33 point improvement would be up there?
    It's a tough stat to lookup.
     
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    Which 3? If you mean Hart, Ross, Lindsay, then I'd say the Richard is also just as big, so it's a big 4. And I do think he'll win 3 of the Big 4.
     
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    Found these excerpts (from the past 24 hrs) in the Jets forum:

    I wonder if we were all this delusional during the H.O.P.E. era before McDavid's arrival.
     
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    I personally consider the Richard a tier below the other 3 in value. Goals in isolation doesn't seem to be a big deal to me compared to Points, MVP, and Most Outstanding.

    (And I'd be saying that if McDavid wasn't a factor :P)
     
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    Hart and Art Ross are now somehow fuel for the Oilers bening awfully lucky. Awful and lucky.

    The narrative that the Oilers actually helped McDavid get this far has been permanently sidelined.
     
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    yeah, a 33 point improvement has to be top-20 for sure you would think
     
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    Maybe top 20. I doubt top 10.

    Actually wouldn't be too difficult to check. Find the teams on hockeydb, look at their yearly point totals.

    The Nordiques, Sharks, and Penguins all had huge improvements at points. Even the Avs coming out of the lockout year had a massive improvement. The Hurricanes when they won the Cup. That's 5 off the top of my head that were likely bigger, but who knows. Maybe there are less than I think. Would be interesting to look into.

    If you removed all of the early expansion team improvements then they might be top 10.
     

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