lol apparently not! The main attribute that has been given to Greene here for years has been his leadership abilities and his role in developing young defensemen. Take a look at the young defensemen who have come and gone here in his tenure and tell me who has been developed that you woudl say - hey - that Greene is really invaluable in that role! Also the 2 years prior to this were two of the most gutless, no-show Devils teams I have ever seen, and he captained both. In the years he took over as captain from Salvador how have you felt about the play of this team. Many people call Mark Messier and Scott Stevens great leaders, great captains? What gives them the right to do that? Those peopel are not in the locker rooms either. So you can make a judgement based on what you see if its rosy, but not if it stinks? Ok.