Proposal: Looch back home

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  1. Skelen

    Skelen Registered User

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    To start, please keep this civil. With all the rumors going around with Milan this was something "fun" I threw together.


    EDM:

    Loooooch 33% retained @ 4~ mil for 5 years
    10th overall

    BOS:

    A.McQuaid @ 2.75 for 1 year
    2018 2nd
    2020 condtional pick (becomes 2nd if Looch scores 100+ points combined over the 2 years, otherwise a 4th)


    Boston gets some grit back into the forward lineup and can move Milan up and down the line up as needed. He's played well with DK in the past and could help each others game again.

    Edmonton gets a big vet on the back end at a much cheaper cost long term. McQuaid, although not a big name by any means, has been a good penalty killer and shot blocker for the Bruins and loves sticking up for team mates.

    The picks from either side is to balance out the salaries going either way. 10th overall may seem like a lot but taking on 4 million for 5 years on a player who has shown decline while playing on a team with McJesus is a big risk.

    Side note; I was going to include M.Belesky's contract in this trade and have Edmonton retain less, but I'm unsure if you can move retained salary like that.
     
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    LOL something fun.. Not sure if you are serious about this?
    Absolutely sad deal for Edmonton. They best keep Looch if that is the best deal.
     
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    You guys and that 10th OA just to move Lucic, it wont happen but hey keep posting it in the proposals.
     
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    Empoleon8771 Kunitz Was There

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    Lucic at $4 million has some value, so you're not getting the 10th overall if they're retaining salary.
     
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    Edmonton doesnt need to sweeten the pot with their first if they're retaining 33%, come on.
     
  6. Skelen

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    Unless another big contract goes back what incentives are there for taking on 6mil for 5 years?
     
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    Boston already has Backes signed to a gracious contract for three more years and they basically give you the same thing.

    Pointless to have 2 of those guys taking up that much cap
     
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    Well the Oilers aren't worried about giving the Bruins presents, so they just keep the pick and player.
     
  9. Frank Drebin

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    So why does Edmonton retain so much in your proposal?
     
  10. Sniper99

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    then you keep him and move or retain a bunch of $$ in order to move him. I dont recall the Leafs moving any of their 1st's along with Kessel and Phaneuf to get what they got. Didnt move a 1st either to get rid of Clarkson's god awful contract either.
     
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    Trade him July 1st with zero retain and his real dollars are 4.5 a year
     
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    Empoleon8771 Kunitz Was There

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    His contract is too long for teams to not care about the AAV, though. The teams that care about paying less than the AAV aren't going to want to be a contract dumping grounds forever. A team like Arizona is going to want to be good within 5 years, and I really doubt they'd want a $6 million AAV Lucic in 4 years regardless of how much money he's making.
     
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    Zero interest in giving up an asset like 10th OA because Lucic had a bad second half of the season. Classic knee jerk reaction
     
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    Brutal for Edmonton. Lucic will only cost $4.5 Million in real dollars per year after July 1st. He might as well go to a cap floor team. No reason to cough up the 10 OA for that offer. Very underwhelming.
     
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    How come people have such a hard time understanding the concept that if we retain on Lucic, WE ARE NOT THROWING IN A TOP 10 PICK. You can’t have it both ways and then give us jack **** on top of that. Jesus
     
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    But again, the problem is with his term. It doesn't matter if he's only making $4.5 million a year, because whoever acquires him will be getting a $6 million cap hit for 5 more years. It would be different if he had only a year or two, but no team is going to want that much dead cap space for that long. Most teams who count as "cap floor" teams aren't going to want to be bad cap floor teams in 5 years.
     
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    I may be confused on how that works. I understand that some contracts are front or back loaded where they get X amount more at certain points in their contract, but doesn't it still count as 6mil a year?
     
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    Yeah, the cap hit stays at $6 Million AAV. However in real dollars he gets paid $4.5 because Edmonton has to pay his last bonus on July 1st. This might not seem like much but saving $1.5 million per year matters to budget teams.
     
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    Lucic at 4 million has positive value. So we're packaging him with a top 10 pick and trading it for a cap dump and two "meh" picks?

    No thanks.
     
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    a) Beleskey is a Ranger.... and b) the ship sailed on Lucic when he preferred to go West, he'll never return to Boston...
     
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    lucic at 1/2 retained is worth at least a second... without the retention he would kill our cap. so we have to start with the idea Edmonton is retaining and we are giving up a second for him

    or a similar valued prospect.

    now... do we make the trade bigger? I don't see Edmonton taking a dman. they have a lot of bottom pairing dmen. but I think they need a left wing scorer

    we have marchand, debrusk, donato, Heinen, Bjork... add lucic and that's 6... doesn't even begin to count that we might move a center to the wing. we obviously have at least 1 to spare

    debrusk has special value in Edmonton I think... Heinen less so...

    it depends who we want to keep? lucic probably plays with krejci… marchand probably plays with Bergeron... so who becomes our third liner? is that donato the hometown kid? is that Heinen? debrusk? is it Bjork? how many of these guys can play the off wing?

    I think the trade becomes debrusk and something like chelerik for lucic with salary reduction and that first round pick

    we carry forward with the plan to have marchand/lucic/and one of donato or Heinen as our top 3 left wings... that position is good. likely Heinen and Bjork compete for the right wing spot with pastrnak/backes... and that side is also good. and we still have 1 guy too many

    we use the pick on a center or a dman… it sucks to lose debrusk but he would cost more than 3 mill cap hit. lucic at 1/2 retained is going to be cheaper. and neither of these guys play above marchand anyhow... both would be second/third liners. lucic has a different skill set that donato/Bjork/Heinen don't have. we still have plenty of offensive talent

    I wouldn't mind seeing lucic return... but Edmonton isn't going to bend over to make it happen. we have to give them something
     
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    the other issue is the bad blood between BOS 's front office and PC, it's why Sweeney had to fix his mistakes....
     
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    what the heck, there won't be any retention on lucic the 10th OV is included
     
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    No thanks to retention. Hell be traded July 2nd when his bonuses are paid and his real salary will be 4.5 mil.
     
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    Get looch the cooch back to beantown?

    You know Boston is actually trying to win again right?
     

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