Discussion in 'New Jersey Devils' started by StevenToddIves, Apr 30, 2018.
Another question for you. Have you watched Merkley in guelph vs at the world juniors?
I've watched a ton of film on Merkley. I find him fascinating. Just incredible talent, but on the very same shift he can make you gasp in awe of his amazing offensive abilities and then cover your eyes seconds later after an atrocious play in his own zone. In my mind, Merkley is without a doubt the wild card of the 2018 draft, with Rasmus Kupari in distant second.
Interesting, going against family.
That doesn't answer the question. I was just wondering if his play was any different at the world juniors.
Merkley played very well recently in the IIHF. He tallied three assists in five games and actually was pretty effective in his own zone. Here's some highlights for you:
Again, I think the possibility of Merkley to the Devils with the 17th pick should not be understated. Apart from the oft-stated risk, the kid has top-5 talent. I would rank his skill set a touch above Adam Boqvist, a RD similar in style and size. However, Boqvist is a hard worker who has shown a strong development curve defensively, and Merkley has left a trail of red flags. Thus, Boqvist will certainly be gone in the top 8 while Merkley could conceivably fall into the second round.
I have been asked several times: Would I take Merkley if I were Ray Shero? The answer is probably no, not with no 2nd/3rd round picks. The risk of not hitting at all in a draft is too great for a still-rebuilding franchise like NJ. What I would do is trade down to a team with multiple first rounders and second rounders (#17 to DET for #31 & #33? to NYR for #26 & #39?) and then grab Merkley with one of those two picks, while also drafting a more certain commodity at D like Alexeyev or Woo or Sandin.
NYb could take Merkley
he’s got some nerve, not answering your question. don’t worry, i reported his slapdash answer to the mods with a recommendation of a full banning
Haha, I think I will just do 20 push-ups. Of course, they will be spaced out over the duration of the next 40 years.
Seriously though, I apologize for not answering the question as it was asked initially. I gave it another shot (like three or four posts up) and think I got it right.
haha no worries. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything. Just getting a discussion going with someone knowledgeable.
You could use a sensitivity training
I just read that Merkley has some character concerns? Sounds like Ho-Sang 2.0 (from the prospects board):
that's pretty concerning. if i'm a GM and I confirm the off-ice allegations are true, there's no way i use a 1st round pick to select him
Well damn yeah I dont want him even more now.
maybe in the 4th lol
That was a pretty damning report about the kid. Yikes.
This is the type of criticism towards Merkley I have been discussing. If he did not have these concerns, Merkley would be discussed as a possibility for Ottawa with the #4 overall pick. As it stands, he could fall into the second round.
The Devils could clearly use a player with Merkley's enormous skills from the blueline at #17. That being said, I think the chances of the Devils drafting him are slim to none.
If true, this is the type of thing that gets a player wiped from a teams draft board. Again, if true, I wouldn’t touch the kid... I don’t care how young he is, I don’t need that type of additude around my team.
Kinda sound similar to what happened to Sokolov in a way. Though I think one big factor was that Sokolov was out of shape
Every team has a "No Draft List". I would not be surprised if Merkley were on over half of them. Despite being the most talented D in the OHL, he was a healthy scratch down the stretch, and rumors persist that Guelph is trying to trade him. That being said, some team could have him in their top 5, he's just that talented. This is why he is the wild card of the 2018 draft, which I have repeated several times over. He could go as high as the top 15, or he could fall into the late second round.
I would like to add that I'm not attacking Merkely. I have consistently crowed about his enormous potential. And I have known several people who were jerks in high school and then grew up and became really good people. So I hold out a great deal of hope for him.
if he's still on the board in the mid-2nd round, i'd hope shero would trade for a spot to select him. kids mature, he's worth a 2nd rounder. he has potential
Caught up on Kupari today.
Skill wise he's phenomenal
Very real possibility of Kupari to the Devils -- I would say higher than most have been discussing.
We don't know how enamored Shero and Castron are of the D who will be available at #17. What if Smith and Wilde are off the board and the Devils brass are not as enamored of Miller and McIsaac as I am? The options would be to either trade down or draft the best available forward. If there isn't a solid trade-down offer, the best Fs available would likely include a group of Kupari, Kravtsov, Bokk, Denisenko, Thomas, Noel. Out of that group, Kupari's upside is only matched by Kravtsov. His speed is only rivaled by Kravtsov and Thomas. The only other players who can play both center and wing are Thomas and Denisenko. And his hands are only matched by Kravtsov. It's worth noting to Bokk fans that Bokk is the best pure scorer of the group, rivaled only by Kravtsov.
What I'm saying is that Kupari fits into the Devils organizational philosophy -- he's extremely fast and incredibly skilled. He needs a ton of work on reducing turnovers and 200-foot play, but he is not without effort in the defensive zone. He's not physical, but he's not soft. And he projects to be 6'1-190, nice size for an NHL forward. If he even scratches his potential, the Devils could one day have an amazing top-2 center combo of Nico/Kupari.
Kupari is no sure thing, but he's a big swing for the fences. I'd say he has as much 1C upside as anyone in this draft aside from Veleno, and probably about even with Kotkaniemi.
He may end up being the best Finn in the draft, but the other one seems to play a heavier game.
Yeah, I seem to have overlooked him too. His production seems pretty good for a draft elible player.
Fwds I want at #17 (assuming no big fallers)- Bokk, Kupari, Kravstov, Denisenko, Thomas, Kaut
Dmen I want at #17 (assuming no big fallers)- Wilde, Miller, Sandin, Merkley