Roster and Fantasy GM Thread: Pre-Draft Silly Season

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  1. Nuckles

    Nuckles Bleed Assets E'ryday

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    New offer sheet compensation info is out

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    Any interest in Lucic? He can protect Pettersson
     
  3. Dave Lister

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    Ive been saying this for 3 years now but I still want Athanasiou on our team
     
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    Nuckles Bleed Assets E'ryday

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    I'm pretty sure we can find much cheaper "protection" in free agency.
     
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    You can add on some of your bad contracts.
     
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    cookiefest nothing matters anyway.

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    Maybe if we get a ton of sweetener in addition to him? Otherwise we can find much cheaper protection elsewhere.
     
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    Lucic + Caleb Jones (Oilers 2nd best D prospect) + 2nd round pick 2019 for Sutter
     
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    Lucic + 10th overall for Granlund
     
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  10. me2

    me2 Calling out the crap

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    Just not worth it. You could get use the Lucic money to help bring in a UFA player. Even if the 10th overall turns into a decent player you'll be kicking yourself when he's causing your team cap problems, if the 10th overall turns into mediocre player/bust you are severely screwed.
     
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    Looch has a full NMC until 2021-22
     
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    31 thoughts said he and the oilers both may be looking for a split
     
  13. Hindustan Smyl

    Hindustan Smyl 2020/2021 = Canucks being a contender

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    To Montreal: Markstrom + Sutter (zero retention) + Eriksson (zero retention) + 2018 1st

    To Vancouver: Carey Price

    Montreal gets an extra 1st rounder and can comfortably draft BPA at the #3 spot while drafting Kotkaniemi at #7 to address organisational depth at center.

    Vancouver gets Price. Seems Vancouver's defense, the addition of Price helps to counter their weak defense (to some extent). The presence of Price allows the Canucks to comfortably build up their defense, via picks, over the upcoming years. Guys like Demko and Dipietro can showcase themselves and eventually be moved for prospects in other areas.
     
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    mea culpa, lol. what an abhorrent contract
     
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    I think it would be worth it but not for EDM. Someone good will fall to 10th likely a good Dman. JVR/Stastny are likely looking for 6-7 year deals. Nash might be willing to take a 2 year 6m deal to try and get a retirement contract afterwards. Not much else out there unless we somehow someway landed Tavares
     
  16. Hindustan Smyl

    Hindustan Smyl 2020/2021 = Canucks being a contender

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    What’s the point of taking on such a horrendous contract (along with the 10th overall), if taking on said horrible contract would likely serve as a hindrance to reupping the 10OA when the 10OA becomes an RFA a few years later?

    I don’t dislike the idea of taking on bad contracts avec picks, but I think it’s better to take on shorter term contracts even if it results in lower picks (Spezza + 2nd, Brouwer + 2nd, etc).
     
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    As bad as the Canucks' situation is, imagine how much worse it'd be if Lucic didn't save Benning and Linden from themselves by turning down their offer. 5 more years on that contract.

    Or even worse, if Benning had succeeded in trading the Boeser pick for him and then signed him to that kind of deal.
     
  18. Mr. Canucklehead

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    I don't dislike Reaves - I just feel Archibald is younger, cheaper and arguably a better hockey player.
     
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    Hindustan Smyl 2020/2021 = Canucks being a contender

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    Reaves is much better than Archibald. However - I agree with you that Reaves will be expensive and won’t be worth the investment.
     
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    All points that I agree with, which is why Id want to have both. I know Archibald is the better overall player but Reaves is a better role player. Archibald seemed to mellow out and play softer compared to his first few games on the team. I dont think a 2m for 2 years for Reaves would be too expensive compared to the Dorsetts and Prusts of the past
     
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    I prefer Reaves too..he's also one very tough customer..and the Canucks lineup for next year, looks very soft indeed.
     
  22. Canadian Canuck

    Canadian Canuck Lose for Hughes #2

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    Reaves would get more than Dorsett money which to me is not worth it. Just roll with Archibald.
     
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    No.

    Lucic 1 mill retained + 10th overall for Granlund
     
  24. iceburg

    iceburg Don't ask why

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    Lucic 1 mill retained + 10th overall for Granlund + Gagner

    Need the cap room to sign Tavares and Carlson ;)
     
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    I'd like Maroon on a 2 year deal max with high AAV. Guy can play up and down the lineup as needed and has that grit. Anything with term (like all UFA's this year except JT and Carlsson) I stay the hell away from. Peca is a guy I'd take a flier on too; like you said Tampa just pumps these guys out all the time. And if we can get a centre for Baertschi I think we have to do it, especially if we are already adding Maroon as a UFA. I'd much rather this scenario over what I expect him to do in give expensive long term deals to both JVR and Bozak.
    A.A. is so over rated, guy is fast but that's it. Free agent snag, sure whatever, but I will be livid if we give up anything for him.
    So your plan for a rebuilding team is to get an aging goalie on a bad contract and to get him you want to give up our 1st round pick that should be used for a RHD prospect that this organization needs desperately. Not only that but you move Sutter who has value to the team to let the younger centres develop their offensive games. You also further clog the crease with Demko and Dipietro on their way.

    I'd much rather the 2 bad contracts for a shorter period of time, worth the same in cap hit over the term on Carey Price- though Price is obviously the better player.
     
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