Prospect Info: The Prospect Thread

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  1. Zombotron

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    Pettersson
    Gaudette
    Demko
    Lind
    Dahlen
    Lockwood
    Diepietro

    :yo:
     
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    If you told me Pettersson would reach 25 points by the end of his first SHL season, I would've been ecstatic. He might hit that marker by the end of Novemeber.
     
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    Quite a run for our top prospects so far this year.

    On Pace:------------------- GP G A PTS
    F
    Brock Boeser----- NHL-----79 20 68 88
    Jake Virtanen---- NHL-----81 16 08 24
    Nikolay Goldobin AHL-----76 44 72 116
    Elias Pettersson---SEL -----52 20 40 60
    Jonathon Dahlen--ALV-----45 30 30 60
    Adam Gaudette---NCAA---38 33 38 71
    Kole Lind----------CHL-------70 40 75 115
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    Olli Juolevi--------FIN-------48 21 14 35
    Nikita Tryamkin--KHL------60 09 23 32
    G
    Thatcher Demko--AHL-----54 43w 11l 11so .950spt

    small samples but wow!
     
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    You forgot Michael Dipietro!
     
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    End of October stats. Included anyone born in '93 or later, minimum 3 games.

    Juniors
    NamePosBornLeagueTeamGPGAPtsP/GP
    Brassard, MattD'98OHLOshawa150660.40
    Candella, ColeD'98OHLSudbury1629110.69
    Gadjovich, JonahW'98OHLOwen Sound85491.13
    Gaudette, AdamC'96NCAANortheastern767131.86
    Lind, KoleW'98WHLKelowna14815231.64
    Lockwood, WilliamW'98NCAAMichigan62240.67
    McKenzie, BrettC'97OHLNorth Bay92240.44
    Stukel, JakobW'97WHLCalgary1564100.67
    European Leagues
    NamePosBornLeagueTeamGPGAPtsP/GP
    Abols, RodrigoC'96SHLOrebro120000.00
    Dahlen, JonathanW'97Swe-1Timra64481.33
    Gunnarsson, KristofferD'97SHLFrolunda130000.00
    Jasek, LukasW'97CzechLiberec173360.35
    Juolevi, OlliD'98LiigaTPS Turku73250.71
    Palmu, PetrusW'97LiigaTPS Turku1966120.63
    Pettersson, EliasC'98SHLVaxjo13510151.15
    Tryamkin, NikitaD'94KHLYekaterinburg26410140.54
    Zhukenov, DmitryC'97KHLOmsk81010.13
    AHL
    NamePosBornLeagueTeamGPGAPtsP/GP
    Boucher, ReidW'93AHLUtica73691.29
    Brisebois, GuillaumeD'97AHLUtica61010.17
    Carcone, MichaelW'96AHLUtica50000.00
    Chatfield, JalenD'96AHLUtica70000.00
    Goldobin, NikolayW'95AHLUtica746101.43
    Labate, JosephW'93AHLUtica72130.43
    Laplante, Yan-PavelW'95AHLUtica30110.33
    McEneny, EvanD'94AHLUtica61340.67
    Molino, GriffenW'94AHLUtica50000.00
    Sautner, AshtonD'94AHLUtica70000.00
    Subban, JordanD'95AHLUtica50110.20
    ECHL
    NamePosBornLeagueTeamGPGAPtsP/GP
    Cederholm, AntonD'95ECHLKalamazoo50000.00
    Stewart, MackenzieD'95ECHLKalamazoo50220.40
    Goalies
    NamePosBornLeagueTeamGPWLOTLSOGAASave %
    Demko, ThatcherG'95AHLUtica541011.610.950
    DiPietro, MichaelG'99OHLWindsor1594012.230.930
     
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    Jordan Subban is all but done
     
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    Europe

    Vita Hasten 1 Timra 2
    Dahlen 0 points

    AHL

    Rochester 4 Utica 3 (SO)
    Demko 29 saves on 32 shots (6 saves on 8 shots in SO)

    Michael Chaput (2) ASST: Darren Archibald (2), Reid Boucher (7) (PP)
    Darren Archibald (2) ASST: Evan McEneny (4), Alexis D'Aoust (2)
    Alexis D'Aoust (2) ASST: Wacey Hamilton (3), Darren Archibald (3)

    Shootout:
    Nikolay Goldobin No Goal
    Darren Archibald No Goal
    Reid Boucher Goal
    Brendan Gaunce No Goal
    Zack MacEwen No Goal
    Evan McEneny No Goal
    Alexis D'Aoust No Goal
    Michael Chaput No Goal

    ECHL

    Cincinnati 4 Kalamazoo 3
    Cederholm 0 points, +1
    Mohnihan 0 points, -1
    Irving 0 points, -3
    Stewart 0 points, -2
    Garteig was the back-up

    Wow - Jesse Schultz - yes, that Jesse Schultz - is playing for Cincinnati!

    OHL

    Sudbury 4 Sault Ste. Marie 5 (OT)
    Candella 1 assist, even

    WHL

    Kelowna 3 Tri-City 4 (OT)
    Lind 1 goal (9th), 1 assist, +1 (selected 2nd star)

    S_C
     
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    Tryamkin has pretty good numbers. Really wish we have him this season. **** Willie D.
     
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    When do own Tryamkins rights until and what does his khl contract look like. Term? Does it have an out?
     
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    The Canucks hold his rights until July 1st 2022. That's when he become a UFA as he'll be 27.

    His contract expires April 30th 2020. No out clause has been reported. He would have to buy out his own contract to leave the KHL early.
     
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    This is great news in his thread it said we lose his rights the summer his khl contract expires. I have no idea hope you are right as at the very least his rights are an asset. I still believe he will be a star.
     
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    Can you read the Tryamkin thread and hopefully Hf boards can get clarity on his canuck rights situation. Maybe get the media involved though the Mcenery situation was messed up by the best of the media while the Canucks knew.
     
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    He hasn't played 80 games in the NHL (79), has over 3 pro seasons accrued and is 25 when his KHL contract is up. I think that means he could elect for Group 6 free agency.
     
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    See this thread got off track. So right now the 79 games plays lets him declare FA after Khl contract expires. Seems strange a games play rule comes into affect when it is the player who limited his nhl games not the team. I am hopeful we are missing a clause in this rule.
    It is important as he will come back some day to Nhl hope it is with us. Out of all the Benning moves the drafting of Tryamkin was the best and the losing him was the worst. I say trade Gudbranson then trade Edler in offseason buy back Tryamkins contract. Hope OJ improves but team is almost as good as this year on d. People are arguing if Biega is better tha Gudbranson. Tryamkin right now is better than both with more potential than Tanev.
     
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    He has only had two "professional seasons". A player must be under NHL contract to accrue professional seasons.
     
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    For the purpose of determining Group 6 UFAs professional experience, for players over 20 years of age includes 1 game played in a season ANY pro league beyond Junior or Collegiate. He will be a Group 6 UFA when his KHL contract expires.

    The whole purpose of Group 6 is to allow players like Tryamkin, who were drafted, but not under NHL contracts and playing in other professional leagues (usually Europe) to achieve NHL free agency without having to wait until 27 years of age. If a team can't sign an player, they shouldn't be able to hold onto his rights forever.
     
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    Where did you get that from? In the CBA they define professional games as needing to be under a NHL SPC. If that isn't the case then how come Rodin wasn't a Group 6 UFA?

    Also Benning thinks that the Canucks hold his rights until 2022.

     
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    There is also no transfer agreementioned with Russia which, IIRC, changes things somewhat.
     
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    No, the CBA is pretty clear that those 3 "professional seasons" must occur while under an NHL contract:

    They don't hold his rights forever. They held his rights for 4 years from the draft, and once he agreed to an ELC they got his rights until he was 27.
     
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    Sorry to have started this discussion.

    I agree with you. On re-reading Article 10.1 of the CBA, BFG won't be an NHL UFA until 2022.

    Group 3-7 accrued seasons (those must NHL seasons) or age 27 as of June 30 at the end of a league year. He was born in August, 1994, so won't become a Group 3 UFA until the June 30 following August, 2021-which means June 30, 2022.

    Group 5-he won't have 10 professional seasons under a SPC before June 30, 2022.

    Group 6-as you say, requires the seasons be under a SPC, and he'll only have 2 of those. He'd need 3 to be a group 6 UFA.

    Thanks for pointing this out, and to LeftCoast for pointing out the game requirement for a professional season.
     
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    Europe

    Sport 4 TPS 3
    Palmu 0 points
    Juolevi 1 assist

    Vogle 3 Vaxjo 4
    Pettersson 1 goal (6th), 1 assist

    Timra 3 IK Pantern 2 (OT)
    Dahlen 1 goal (5th)

    AHL

    Binghamton 2 Utica 1
    Demko 18 saves on 20 shots

    Evan McEneny (2) ASST: Philip Holm (6), Nikolay Goldobin (7)

    NCAA

    Ferris State 3 Michigan 2 (OT)
    Lockwood 0 points, -1

    OHL

    Oshawa 0 Erie 8
    Brassard 0 points, -1

    North Bay 5 Flint 1
    McKenzie 0 points, +1

    Owen Sound 5 Mississauga 4 (SO)
    Gadjovich did not play

    Niagara 5 Sudbury 6 (OT)
    Candella 1 assist, +1

    WHL

    Calgary 6 Lethbridge 3
    Stukel 0 points, +1

    Kelowna 4 Victoria 2
    Lind 2 assists, -1

    S_C
     
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    So, is Gadjovich still injured or injured again?
     
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